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The VENESS Family of Worcester & Birmingham, with origins elsewhere in England
(including the proven genetic ancestral family of BACON of Osbournby, Lincolnshire)

- A Complex Family History of Interchanging Family Names & Common-law Relationships -


Following extensive and ongoing research, this synopsis was revised by “The Geneal Geologist” on 20 March 2018.

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Introduction: The VENESS Family Name

Name variants for this family follow the generic phonetic form of V*N*S and can include, but not limited to: VENAS, VENESS, VENICE, VENIE, VENIS, VENISS, VENUS, VINESS & VYNASS.

My immediate VENESS family is part of a small Midlands outlier population in Worcestershire & adjoining Birmingham (Warwickshire), which otherwise should trace their roots back to Sussex in SE England; a general surname distribution pattern that is reflected in the map, below. The name likely comes from Norman French (habitational name from Venoix, near Caen in Calvados, i.e. De Venoix or Devenoix), and (as with my DUGARD family of Worcestershire) were Huguenot immigrants escaping persecution. The family are first reported arriving in England by rowing boat at Rye in the late 1570’s. Nicholas de VENOIX and two brothers left Normandy to escape the then uprising. Robert and Thomas went to Wisborough Green and Kirdford in West Sussex, while Nicholas settled in Brightling, East Sussex. This resulted in the surname dispersal map shown below.



Surname distribution map for the 1891 census produced from data on Ancestry

Ø The VENESS family discussion group mostly focusses on the Sussex families. One member has an extensive database and SSX is currently ruled out as the county of baptism for my 4xGGF Samuel VENESS. The neighbouring county of Kent is now being investigated. There are several C19th VENESS dyers with origins in that county on census;

Ø The Worcestershire outlier for any given census year is related to the descendants of:

o Silk Dyer Samuel VENESS of Worcester (born c1785). The data includes the VENESS descendants of Samuel’s daughter, Elizabeth’s illegitimate son John Bacon VENESS (aka John William or William John VENESS aka John SMITH), who settled in Deritend (Bordesley), on the SE side of Birmingham, and

The Sussex family of Richard & Delia VENESS living in Chaddesley Corbett, who are currently unrelated.

Ø An agricultural family of Packwood, Solihull, Warwickshire, whose later name is established in the C20th as VINERS, is often mistakenly transcribed as VYNASS or VINESS in BMD and baptisms for C19th Solihull;



The Research Backstory


In 2017, after being stuck for more than 30 years on my VENESS ancestry, I started researching all V*N*S family records in the West Midlands in detail, in the hope that a small clue may result. The breakthrough came from an unexpected direction, since many of the protagonists have made tracing them extremely difficult, through absence in records, illegitimacy, common-law relationships or the flexible use of names:

Ø My great grandmother, Selina BICKNELL, was the d/o Elizabeth VINESS (c1851) aka VENUS (sic), my 2xGGM. Elizabeth was assumed to be illegitimate, as her father was not record on her marriage record. Nothing was known prior to her marriage to Selina’s father, Daniel BICKNELL, my 2xGGF. Her birth was never obviously registered, and there is no baptism. She appears on later census as the daughter of John SMITH of Lincolnshire. Without much further information, it was assumed (incorrectly, as it turns out) that she was the adopted daughter of John SMITH, via his common-law wife at the time, Ann.

 

Ø Through my maternal SANDERS family a ROTHERO / PARTRIDGE family connection has always been identified but never clarified. With hindsight, we can thank the precise nature of the records from two census entries in 1901 & 1911 for the household of Arthur Frederick & Selina (nee BICKNELL) SANDERS, my GGPs, in Aston, Birmingham, who had resident William Henry ROTHERO (1884), registered as "cousin". The SANDERS side did not reveal any apparent connection. Records have since confirmed that William was the result of a ROTHERO=PARTRIDGE marriage, but nothing was immediately obvious on the BICKNELL side of the family, either. William went on to marry Millie BURGESS in 1912 Aston. This cousin relationship turned out to be critical for determining my VENESS ancestry.

 

Ø William Henry ROTHERO (1884) is the son of William Henry ROTHERO (1860) of Leominster, Herefordshire, who married Agnes PARTRIDGE in 1883 Edgbaston. Agnes died, aged 23, giving birth to her son. William Henry senior then remarried to Rose MILTON in 1886 and had further children. William Henry junior was not part of his father’s new family. In 1891, the young William Henry was living with his PARTRIDGE grandparents, John & Elizabeth PARTRIDGE, before he became a permanent member of the SANDERS household, probably helping Arthur with his cycle shop. There is an extended ROTHERO family from both men, with William senior and some of his family moving to Canada. In 1871 & 1881 Birmingham, Agnes PARTRIDGE can be found on census as the only child of John & Elizabeth PARTRIDGE (also not registered at birth or baptised, for reasons of illegitimacy).

 

Ø While tracing all VENESS individuals, I followed the history of Elizabeth VENESS (1825) d/o Samuel & Mary of Worcester, which was complex and not easily recognisable, an apparent independent lifestyle somewhat akin to that of my 2x great aunt Harriet Anne GRACE. Elizabeth’s life can be summarised as:

 

§  Born & baptised in 1825 at Worcester St Peter;

§  Recorded at home in Worcester on the 1841 census;

§  Had an illegitimate son registered and baptised in 1848 Worcester as John Bacon VENESS, who lived his childhood with his parents as John SMITH, and then returned to his VENESS name upon marriage to have an extensive VENESS family in Birmingham;

§  Recorded as the common-law wife of John SMITH of Lincolnshire, living in Wolverhampton on the 1851 census. Present was her son John, above, (as SMITH, born c1848 Worcester) and daughter Mary Ann SMITH (born about Aug 1850, Wolverhampton). The couple went on to have daughter, Elizabeth (c1851 Wolverhampton, later known as VINESS on marriage, but SMITH until then, my 2xGGM), and a son Charles Henry SMITH (c1853 in Birmingham). Presumably, Elizabeth was pregnant with my 2xGGM at the time of the census;

§  Her relationship with John SMITH ceased sometime in the period between 1853 & 1860, leaving her three youngest children with him. She appears to have returned to Worcester. For reasons given below, this may have been as early as 1855;

§  Married widower millwright Benjamin RICHARDSON in 1860 Worcester (witnessed by her sister Mary Ann), however this relationship had ended by the 1861 census. Benjamin can be found in the Worcester workhouse as a widowed pauper, indicating that Elizabeth had moved on. It is interesting that RICHARDSON and the family of PARTRIDGE, below, where resident in the same street in 1851, in Sudbury, a part of Worcester near the canal;

§  Became the common-law wife of John PARTRIDGE by the 1861 census, as the couple were boarding in Bromsgrove Street, Birmingham, along with her son John SMITH (glass blower, aged 12). The PARTRIDGEs can be found still living together in 1871 Birmingham, as married, with their daughter Agnes (9). It appears that John abandoned his wife, Sarah nee MEIGH, and their (at least one) surviving child, Walter PARTRIDGE, in Worcester to resettle with his mistress, “Elizabeth RICHARDSON”, in Birmingham. John & Elizabeth were finally legally married in 1880 (with Elizabeth giving her father’s name as Samuel VENESS; although transcription indices have her father incorrectly as RICHARDSON. It is correct on the original). John’s legal wife, Sarah, died in 1877 Worcester. Elizabeth’s legal husband, Benjamin, appears to have died in 1862 in the workhouse. Presumably, John & Elizabeth had waited for both spouses to die prior to their legal marriage as “widower & widow” in 1880;

§  The final story of Elizabeth remains unclear. There is an entry for a death in West Bromwich for 1884, matching her age;

 

Ø Tracing Elizabeth VENESS (1825) brought the story unexpectedly full circle back to the SANDERS household and the ROTHERO/PARTRIDGE connection through Agnes PARTRIDGE by John PARTRIDGE. Consequently, Selina BICKNELLs grandmother, Elizabeth VENESS was related to William Henry ROTHERO’s grandmother, Elizabeth VENESS, i.e. they turn out to be one and the same. Through a rather complex ancestry, Selina & William were cousins, proving the 1901 & 1911 census information. Additionally, the Charles SMITH visiting the BICKNELL household in 1871 is now recognised as Selina’s uncle, the brother of Elizabeth. This is explained in more detail in my Ancestry tree.

 


 

Synopsis (supported by a paper trail, ongoing investigations & DNA results)

My 4xGGPs are Samuel VENESS, a silk dyer, with origins outside the county of Worcestershire (1841 census), who settled in Worcester prior to his 1814 marriage to Mary SPALDING. Samuel’s origins remain unproven as he died just ahead of the 1851 census which could have provided a location. He died on 30 Aug 1849 in Wyld’s Lane in Worcester, of bladder disease, aged 64, supporting a birth year around 1785. Investigations into Sussex records (the home of the majority of the VENESS name) has provided no indication he was baptised in that county. Kent is another possibility being investigated as there are several dyers named VENESS in the greater London area on census, who have origins in Kent. He can be eliminated as the s/o Samuel VENICE & Sarah STONESTREET of Sussex, provided by some researchers, as that Samuel’s history is well documented.

Mary SPALDING
(1791) is one of 4 girls born in Worcester to John SPALDING & Mary HAYES who married in 1784 Whittington near Worcester. John’s ancestry is currently unclear; however, Mary appears to be the 1764 d/o George HAYES & Anne JONES of Castle Frome, Herefordshire (a village just west of Worcester). The HAYES family lived in Castle Frome and their descendants later in Great Malvern (Upton of Severn RD), Worcestershire, and Birmingham.

Samuel & Mary VENESS lived in Worcester St Peter. This is situated on the southern outskirts of the city, probably because dying and other polluting industries were often kept out of town centres. At one stage, a newspaper notice that the property Samuel was trading from was being sold, without affecting his business. They had 6 known children from which no legitimate VENESS lines survive; only one illegitimate line that carries the family name:

·   James VENESS (1815-55), Glover = Mary Ann SAUNDERS in 1841 Claines, WOR. Their children:

o   Mary Ann VENESS (1844-1933) = Samuel HINTON (1833-96) in 1891 Pershore, WOR;

o   Emily VENESS (1846-46);

o   Ellen A VENESS (1848) = Benjamin COOK (1853) in 1877 Kidderminster, WOR;

o   William VENESS (1851-52);

o   James Thomas VENESS (1854-55);

·   Mary Ann VENESS (1817-86) = William COLLIER (1811-76) in 1835 Worcester;

·   Ann VENESS (1819-48) = Christopher COLLIER (1820-1862, possibly brother of William, and living next door to her parents in 1841 census with 10-month old daughter, Clara Veness COLLIER (1840-1901). Family moved to Birmingham where Clara married Abraham JONES in 1860;

·   Sarah VENESS (1822-95) = Charles JENKINS, bootmaker, in 1846 London. The couple did not have any children. After Charles’ death, Sarah is found in Cheshire, living with her widowed niece (incorrectly recorded as daughter). Her likely death in 1895 in Chester;

·   Samuel VENESS (1831-33);

·   Elizabeth VENESS (1825), my 3xGGM. As previously described, Elizabeth’s life is divided into the following phases:

o   Elizabeth’s common-law relationship with John SMITH of Osbournby, Lincolnshire which resulted in 4 children:

John Bacon VENESS aka John SMITH (1848). The reason for the middle name of Bacon has become clear due to a DNA match between this researcher and a descendant of a Martin BACON of Osbournby. It can be assumed that when John Bacon VENESS was born his father was known as John BACON. For whatever reason (their common-law relationship, that he may have been already married, or he was evading the law) the couple became known as SMITH from about 1849. The Bacon name is never used again by John, who lives his younger life as SMITH. In 1851, he is recognised as “son” by John SMITH (i.e. not stepson), and in turn John recognises his father as John, a stoker, upon his marriage (the incumbent assuming his father was surname VENESS, as John married under that name). He is boarding with his mother and her new partner John PARTRIDGE in 1861 and may be the ostler recorded in Deritend in 1871, near where he eventually marries. John’s history is given below;

Mary Ann VENESS aka SMITH (1850 Wolverhampton) is recorded on census with her father in 1851 & 1861, and probably as a domestic servant in 1871. In 1873 she witnesses her brother John’s marriage as Mary Ann VENESS. It is possible, not proven, that she married Thomas COX in 1875 Birmingham as SMITH. Her history after 1873 remains unclear.

Elizabeth SMITH aka VENESS (c1851 Wolverhampton), my 2xGGM, married Nail Cutter Daniel BICKNELL on 28 Sep 1868 at Dale End St Peter in Birmingham (MC, below). Dale End is a street parallel to Corporation Street on the northeast side of the city, running up towards Aston and Duddeston, where her father and stepmother were living. She gave the same phonetic maiden name at the 1873 birth registration for her daughter Selina BICKNELL, my GGM, which was recorded as VENAS, confirming her VENESS ancestry. Her father was not named on her MC, indicating that she was illegitimate. Upon marriage, she was apparently aged 18, supporting her general year of birth to be c1850, but had no occupation. Based on her 1861 & 1871 census ages (where she declared Birmingham as her origins), it is likely she lied about her age and was aged nearly 17 at her wedding. While such early marriages are not unusual, she appears to be pregnant with their first child Agnes. There were no family witnesses;

 



Charles Henry SMITH aka VENESS (c1853 Birmingham). Charles is living with his father in 1861, then recorded as a visitor in the BICKNELL household at 4 James Buildings, Ladywood, in 1871, supporting the relationship between the two families. Later in 1871, Charles married as VENESS to Mary Jane LEE. Helpfully and unusually, where the father should be declared on the marriage entry, his mother is deliberately recorded - Betsy VENESS, tailoress, even though she was living as Elizabeth PARTRIDGE. This record is shown below. The couple had two children who died in infancy:

·   John VENESS (1870-75);

·   Mary Jane VENESS (1874-74);

Charles died in 1875 and later the same year, Mary Jane VENESS (widow) remarried to Henry William PARKER.



The 1851 census shows John SMITH (of LIN) and his “wife” (Elizabeth, of correct age, of Worcester) in Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, with 3-yo child John SMITH (c1848, Worcester, i.e. John Bacon VENESS) & Mary SMITH (8 months, Wolverhampton). My 2xGGM, Elizabeth VENESS, would have been born shortly after the 1851 census was taken in Wolverhampton. John is recorded (incorrectly) as coming from Spalding, but since he has his daughter with him in 1851 & 1861 census, and the following four census returns are more consistent, this is viewed as an error.

John SMITH, as Head, does give “daughter” as Elizabeth’s official status on two later census returns, i.e. not step-daughter. Her apparent illegitimacy on marriage provides a distraction, in that Elizabeth’s mother could easily be viewed in isolation as John’s new partner, Ann.  As Elizabeth is living with her father and stepmother in 1881, her declared age and place of birth could be considered the most accurate, which also matches the paper record. There are no baptisms or births for an Elizabeth V*N*S in Wolverhampton around that time, and she could have been registered as SMITH, BACON or most likely not all. That John is at least recognised as the father of John Bacon VINESS may also explain the 1891 “slip” back to using the surname SMITH by John on that census. It is also true, that on John Bacon VENESS’s marriage he gave John, Stoker, as his father (with the incumbent assuming the father’s surname was VENESS), exactly the first name and occupation of John SMITH.

The 1861 census shows John SMITH (40), a Stoker at a gas works, of “Osenby*”, Lincolnshire, was the married head of a household at 13 Ct 7 House in Upper Windsor Street, Aston. The family included daughter Mary Ann SMITH (10), born Staffordshire (i.e. the Mary of Wolverhampton in 1851), and a son Charles H SMITH (8) of Birmingham, but no wife. Elizabeth, “wife” and mother, had married Benjamin RICHARDSON in Worcester a few months previously, having returned to Worcester some years previously. By this time, John had entered a new relationship with Ann as he had still had young children. She and his daughter, Elizabeth (my 2xGGM), were living nearby at 2 Court 3 House in Great Lister Street, Duddeston (Ann SMITH (34, unmarried), Charwoman, and Elizabeth SMITH (8), both of Birmingham, lodging at the house of Ann MANNING, a laundress).

Ann and John SMITH do not appear to have married, so the relationship was also common-law. On the 1871 census at 5 Roberts Building, Great Lister Street, Duddeston cum Nechells, John SMITH (50), Labourer, of Lincolnshire, was Head of household with his wife Ann SMITH (43), Pearl Button Finisher, of Birmingham.

On the 1881 census, his daughter Elizabeth BICKNELL is noted as widowed BICKNELL and living with the SMITH family at 35 Aston Road, Aston, aged 30, born in Wolverhampton, Staffordshire. John SMITH (Head, Builder's Labourer, 60) of Scot Wiliby (sic; Silk Willoughby, LIN) & (second) “wife” Ann S SMITH, (53) of Birmingham.

By 1891, the SMITH family where at 3 Court 4 House, Cheshire Street, Aston, widower John SMITH (70), General Labourer of “Osenby*”, LIN, living with Selina BICKNELL (17, grand-daughter, my GGM), a Nail Machine Feeder of Birmingham. Selina married in 1893, the same year that John apparently died in Aston. Ann SMITH appears to have died in 1889 Aston at an age that supports her self-declared birth and census returns as c1828. These censuses tie the three families of VENESS, SMITH & BICKNELL together and therefore my relationship to them.

* Note: “Osenby” is Lincolnshire dialect for Osbournby. John SMITH declares “Osenby” as his place of birth in both the 1861 & 1891 census. Osbournby is adjacent to Silk Willoughby, which he gives on both the 1871 & 1881 census.


 This is a known village for BACON families, and John is probably identifiable as BACON somewhere in 1841.

Elizabeth’s short-lived marriage in 1860 Worcester to Benjamin RICHARDSON recorded as Benjamin RICHARDSON (54), widower, Millwright Journeyman (s/o Joseph, Millwright) of Newport St, at Worcester All Saints to Elizabeth VENESS (35), spinster, Gloveress of Pheasant Street, Worcester St Martin (d/o Samuel, Silk Dyer, deceased). A witness was her sister, Mary Ann COLLIER. The marriage took place at the Angel Street Congregational Chapel and is shown below. Benjamin is located in the workhouse in 1861 and died shortly thereafter. The timing Elizabeth left her partner John SMITH, may have been around 1855, when her brother James, a Worcester glover, died. She may have taken over his business, which would explain how she met RICHARDSON in Worcester and married him as a gloveress. It is unclear why the marriage survived for less than a year, but the later marriage to John PARTRIDGE indicates that John’s father was a glover, and may explains how the couple may have met in Worcester;

 

o Elizabeth becoming the mistress of John PARTRIDGE from around 1860, the birth of their daughter (who is assumed not to be RICHARDSON’s daughter, based on timing) Agnes PARTRIDGE (1861/62), and their eventual marriage in 1880. John & Elizabeth are together in 1861, 1871 & 1881;



 

John Bacon VENESS (1848-1904) aka John SMITH, (aka John William VENESS or William John VENESS on two of his children’s marriages), the illegitimate s/o my 3xGGM, Elizabeth VENESS, above, appears to the son of John SMITH of Lincolnshire. John SMITH is clearly an alias, as there is a DNA match between this researcher and descendants of other members of the BACON family in Osbournby. It is unusual to have information that supports who the father of an illegitimate child is, however the relationship was longer term, and this is now proven by DNA. It is likely all 4 children of John & Elizabeth are of the couple. Therefore, the descendant VENESS family of Birmingham are genetic BACON. John married Amelia HOWELL (1851-1923) in 1873 Birmingham. One of the witnesses at the marriage was his sister, Mary Ann VENESS, indicating she was still alive and unmarried on this date. John & Amelia had 14 known children, most of whom were baptised and married in Deritend, Birmingham. The eldest two daughters were born prior to their marriage. The family were once recorded as SMITH in 1891, likely indicating John’s possibly confused identity (an illegitimate child recognised by his father). Why the family were recorded as HOLDEN in 1901 is less clear, although we do know one of his daughters had married into that family name, so there may have been confusion by the enumerator:

·   Amelia VENESS (c1872-1937) = John WILLIAMS in 1889 but was the “wife” of James ROWLES of Barton upon Irwell (LAN) by 1901. The history of WILLIAMS is unknown, but James & Amelia never married. They had 3 children. John & Amelia had a 5-month old daughter on the 1891 census, living with her parents in the “SMITH” household. In 1901 census John WILLIAMS is living as a lodger with 2 of his oldest children in Birmingham, while Amelia is living with James ROWLES in Walsall and Amelia’s youngest child to John (Annie, aged 6, as ROWLES). By 1911, Amelia & James they had moved back to Birmingham with 4 more children. In 1915, they were living in Cotheridge, Worcestershire with James as a farm labourer. They were there in 1923 before moving back in Birmingham by 1928;

·   Agnes Mary VENESS (1873-1955) = William George HOLDEN in 1892;

·   Selina Elizabeth VENESS (1875-76);

·   Algernon “Alfred” VENESS (1877-1966) = Caroline HUGHES (1881-1923) in 1904 (6 boys, 3 girls), then Martha STATHAM in 1923 & Rose BUDDING in 1930:

o   Caroline VENESS (1905-81) = Percy T INGRAM in 1927, then William GODWIN in 1942;

o   Minnie VENESS (1906-20);

o   John VENESS (1908-14);

o   Alfred VENESS (1909-70) = Florence May WOOLDRIDGE in 1931 (2 sons, 3 daughters);

o   William VENESS (1910-77);

o   Algernon VENESS (1915-42);

o   George Frederick VENESS (1916-2000) = Dorothy A COATES in 1970 & Dorothy COLES in 1978;

o   Arthur VENESS (1918-96);

o   Gwendoline VENESS (1921-23);

·   Mary Jane VENESS (1879-1907) = John DANKS in 1897;

·   Elizabeth VENESS (1880) = John CARTER in 1902;

·   John William VENESS (1882-1941) who was registered as and known in later life as William John (not to be confused with his younger brother who died) = Catherine “Kate” JOYCE in 1903 (2 boys, 3 girls):

o   Catherine VENESS (1904-65) = William FOTHERGILL in 1926;

o   Annie VENESS (1906-62) = Harry PEARSON in 1926, then Frederick BENTON in 1939. A descendant of Annie also has a confirmed atDNA match with that established for John BACON;

o   Florence Elizabeth VENESS (1909-82) = Charles Owen PEARSON in 1930;

o   William Edward VENESS (1910-69) = Alice G REYNOLDS or GREEN in 1950 (1 daughter);

o   John VENESS (1913-54) = Hilda MORTIMORE in 1941 (1 son, 1 daughter)

·   William John VENESS (1883-95);

·   Elizabeth Ann VENESS (1885-86);

·   Ada VENESS (1887-1944) = Richard CORBETT in 1909 then Henry STOUT in 1919;

·   George VENESS (1888-1937) = Edith May ADAMS in 1909 (4 boys, 6 girls):

o   Edith Emily VENESS (1909-52);

o   George VENESS (191-11);

o   Alfred VENESS (1913-80) = Violet JAY in 1942 (2 boys, 5 girls);

o   Elizabeth VENESS (1916-81) = John Frederick FOX in 1936;

o   Rose Florence VENESS (1918-92) = Arthur G SMITH in 1939;

o   Gladys VENESS (1920-71);

o   Emily VENESS (1922-22);

o   Edgar Edward VENESS (1926-90) = Vera GOODMAN in 1950 (1 boy, 1 girl);

o   Evelyn VENESS (1932-90) = David E A ROBINSON in 1953;

o   Dennis George VENESS (1936-82) = Angela BARTLEY in 1958 (2 boys, 1 girl);

·   Emily VENESS (1890-1968) = Albert MILLINGTON in 1911;

·   Arthur VENESS (1892-93);

·   John Alfred VENESS (1895-96);



Summary of the Missing Pieces of the VENESS Family Story

Ø The origins and ancestry of my 4xGGF, Samuel VENESS remains unclear. SSX appears to have been eliminated as his origin. Possibly Kent, purely based on dyers of that surname being recorded on census from that county.

Ø Samuel was already in Worcester in 1814 to marry. At the age of 29, he would have completed any apprenticeship and able to support a family. The start of his business in Worcester is not known. It is entirely possible he had been previously married, but the Worcester marriage record is not yet an online image that can be examined for his status on his marriage to Mary SPALDING.

Ø There is no proven relationship between Samuel and the Richard VENESS of Sussex living in nearby Chaddesley Corbett, WOR.

Ø Why did Samuel name his first son James, and then his 2nd son Samuel? There does not appear to be an obvious connection to a family member of that name (also on his wife’s side). It is often traditional to name the first son after the father or paternal grandfather, so Samuel’s father may be named James.

Ø Did Samuel leave a Will that may contain family clues?

Ø Why did John BACON change his name? Was he already married? Was there a family issue or other problem in Lincolnshire that prompted him to leave?

Ø Currently, John Bacon VENESS appears to have been the only illegitimate child of Elizabeth whose birth was registered. Her three others by BACON aka SMITH and one by PARTRIDGE were not.

Ø The location of Elizabeth’s son, John VENESS (presumably as SMITH) has not been identified in 1871. As he had already adopted Birmingham as his place of birth, there are several lodgers of the right age with various trades, including one as an ostler in Deritend St Gabriel, where he eventually settled.



The BACON Family of Osbournby, Lincolnshire & Associated Families

Many of the following family relationships (descendants of Martin BACON) are proven by atDNA. Contact me for more information about ongoing DNA studies that have proven the paper trail or follow the research blog on Facebook.

John BACON (c1762-c1846) = Margaret ROSE (1763-1855) in 1790 Osbournby St Peter & St Paul, my 5xGGPs. The couple are proven through atDNA matches to lines of three of their children:

·       John BACON (1791-1880) = Sarah CUCKSON (1791-1889) in 1815 Cranwell. After 1851, the family emigrated to Portage, Kalamazoo County in Michigan. This line is atDNA proven:

o   William BACON (1820-97) = Harriet SKINNER (1825-89) in Coleby, LIN prior to emigration:

§  John BACON (1845-1910);

§  William BACON (1846-1930);

§  Martin BACON Jr (1848-1927);

§  Mary J BACON (1855);

§  Harriet E “Hattie” BACON (1859-1923);

§  George H BACON (1862-1930);

§  Franklin D “Frank” BACON (1864-1961);

o   Martin BACON (1826-1916) = Letitia HARRIS (1830-84) in 1861 USA. This line is atDNA proven:

§  Albert E BACON (1862-71);

§  Elsworth N BACON (1864-1928);

§  David Henry BACON (1865-1930) = Mabel L LUCE. This line is atDNA proven;

Martin also married Lida Jane POWERS (1825-1905) & Eliza EARL (1863);

·      Mary BACON (1793);

·       Martin BACON (1796-1879), Farmer at Gosberton, LIN = Mary ELLIOTT (1798-1879) in 1819 Rowston St Clement, my 4xGGPs. This line is atDNA proven;

o   John BACON aka John SMITH (1820-93), my 3xGGF, above, DNA-matched;

o   Thomas BACON (1821-23);

o   Jane BACON (1826-1911) DNA-matched = Thomas Albert LOUGHLAND in 1848 Spalding. Son William LOUGHLAND (1849) emigrated to the US and whose descendants provided many atDNA matches;

o   George BACON (1829) = Harriet BOOTHBY (1829-59) in 1850 Spalding:

§  Elizabeth Ann BACON (1853-1929);

§  Thomas BACON (1858);

o   Thomas BACON (1831);

o   Elizabeth “Betsy” BACON (1834-1915) DNA-matched = Frederick William PULLAN in 1862 Leeds. The couple lived in the PULLEN homeplace of Knaresborough, Yorkshire;

o   Martin BACON (1836-1913) = Sarah MATTINSON in Kennington, SRY (1 daughter), then was later living in London with a woman named Rose (1 daughter):

§  Louisa BACON (1875);

§  Rose Ethel BACON (1890);

o   Mary BACON (1838-99) = John LAW in 1862 Gosberton and emigrated to Michigan;

o   William BACON (1842-46);

·      Ann BACON (1799-1883) = Richard ISAAC; Couple first moved to Kalamazoo, then settled in Nebraska. This line is atDNA proven;

·       Thomas BACON (1798-1882) – unmarried;

·       William BACON (c1800)

·       George BACON (1802);

·       Margaret BACON (1805-1905) = William VICARS in 1830;

·      Elizabeth BACON (1806-1880) = Robert SEARSON (1813-1913) in 1841. A son was named George Bacon SEARSON;

The Ancestry of Margaret ROSE of Downham, Isle of Ely, CAM:

·      Thomas ROSE (c1720) = Frances perhaps sometime c1745, my 6xGGPs. It is not known if they might be a couple from Suffolk. Downham children:

o   Mary Rose (1757);

o   Margaret ROSE (1763-1855), my 5xGGM, above;

The Ancestry of Mary ELLIOTT of New Sleaford, LIN:

·      John ELLIOTT (c1765-bef 1827) of Leasingham = Elizabeth ANDREWS (1770-1827) of Holdingham in 1789 Sleaford St Denys. This couple are atDNA proven:

o   Ann ELLIOTT (1788-1880) - unmarried;

o   Sarah ELLIOTT (1789-90);

o   John ELLIOTT (1793), atDNA proven;

§  Charlotte ELLIOTT aka NEWTON (1821) by Sarah NEWTON;

§  Richard Parker ELLIOTT (1823) by Margaret PARKER – the couple appeared to marry in 1830;

§  Charles ELLIOTT (1824-1885) by Margaret PARKER- Charles arrived in New York in Sep 1844. He married Mary Jane WENTWORTH in 1855 California. Descendants (atDNA proven) live in the Sacramento area of California.

o   Millicent ELLIOTT (1795-1878) = George HARE in 1816 Leasingham;

o   Mary ELLIOTT (1798-1879), my 4xGGM, atDNA proven, above;

o   Jane ELLIOTT (1800);

§  Elizabeth ELLIOTT (1821-21, illeg.);

o   Sarah ELLIOTT (1804-71) = John ASH (1796-1857) in 1822;

§  Jane ELLIOTT (1820, illeg.);

o   Catherine ELLIOTT (1811);

§  Elizabeth ELLIOTT (1836-36, illeg.);



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