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CreativeGraces.net - GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH INDEX - The MANNING/MANNIN Family of the Dromdeegy townland, Dunmanway, County Cork, Ireland This synopsis reviewed and fully updated by �The Geneal Geologist�, December 2016 Additional information, comments and corrections welcome. �My Irish Genealogy� Research Blog The MANNING family (often recorded as MANNIN or sometime as MANNINGS) had their homeplace in the townland of Dromdeegy, situated 5km north of Dunmanway, County Cork (see map below). They were established as farmers by the early C19th and were Roman Catholics (RC). Their origins prior to this time are currently unknown but are assumed to be the same general area of West Cork. The family can be found mentioned by townland in church and land records as residing in Droumde*ga (Dromdeegy) or simply as �Drom?� or �Dromdee?� (in some church transcription indices). The family can also be found mentioned as being in Fanlobbus (the district parish) as well as Dunmanway (the official registration district for BMD as well as the nearest main church). MANNING families are also recorded in neighbouring townlands in the NW quadrant of Dunmanway including Derrynasafagh (recorded as Derinasafa and variants), Cloontiquirk, Coorycullane, Coolmountain, Moneyreague & Dromleena and are possibly related. Link: 328 baptism & 51 marriages where MANNINGs are recorded as participants or witnesses/sponsors (Note: link to these search results does not work with all browsers). As there does not appear to a written history of this MANNING family, I will compile neighbouring trees from these records in due course. My research into this family is ongoing. The story to date follows. The current head of this MANNING family (my wife�s 3xGGF) is Cornelius MANNING. Other family research in this period indicates that RC farmers often did not marry until they were well established and could support a family. Some of these marriages were relatively late (men in their forties marrying girls often a decade or more their junior) but they rarely occurred before the age of 25. Based on available records, Cornelius� timeline and anchor dates are: � Probably born before 1785 in West Cork to be aged about 25 upon marriage. Nothing is known about his actual age as it is not recorded (no baptism or death record). � Married Mary CARTHY (McCARTHY) (my wife�s assumed 3xGGM) on or before 1811, probably in Dunmanway (not found). This is based on the mother�s name provided at the baptism of a single child in 1819, however there is circumstantial evidence of further children where Cornelius is almost certainly the father. It is also possible Mary is a later wife of Cornelius and therefore they married prior to 1819 and the birth of their only proven daughter Julia. � Listed in the Tithe Applotment Book of 1826 at Dromdeegy. � Listed in Griffith�s Valuation of 1853 as farming 51 acres at Dromdeegy. Cornelius would have been in his late sixties or seventies by this time (assuming this was not a hereto unknown son of the same name). � The Irish death index from 1854 has no death. It is possible Cornelius died around 1853. It is not known where he is buried. Cornelius MANNING & Mary McCARTHY had the following known or suspected children, which shows a close relationship with the neighbouring DONOVAN family as well as the McCARTHYs: � Mary MANNING (c1812) of �Droumdega� = Denis DONOVAN of the same place in Mar 1832 Dunmanway; my wife�s 2xGGPs. Mary�s baptism has not been located so her parentage (especially her mother) cannot be proven, however both her townland and the family story (which are usually very accurate in Ireland) of two MANNING sisters marrying DONOVAN brothers match. Witnesses: Cornelius MANNING & Timothy DONOVAN, who are the suspected and known fathers of the couple, respectively. Denis & Mary DONOVAN farmed in the townland of Derrylahan and their children are recorded as being born there; � Ellen MANNING (c1815) of �Droumdeega� = Michael �Mick� DONOVAN of the same place in 1838 Dunmanway, with the same witnesses: Cornelius MANNING & Timothy DONOVAN. Ellen�s baptism has not been located so her parentage (especially her mother) cannot be proven, however both her townland and marriage completes the family story of two MANNING sisters marrying DONOVAN brothers. Mick & Ellen DONOVAN are also recorded as living in Derrylahan and their children are recorded as being born there; � Juliana MANNING (Jul 1821) baptised as d/o Cornelius MANNING & Mary McCARTHY of �Droumdeega�. One sponsor was Mary MANNING, presumably her mother, but may be another member of Cornelius� wider family. This daughter is almost certainly the marriage recorded in 1850 at Dunmanway as Jude MANNING = Denis CARTHY both of �Droumdega�, witnessed by Denis DONOVAN & Tim McCARTHY. The couple appear to have settled in Togher & Keenrath (just SW of Dromdeegy), based on children baptised to Denis & Julia McCARTHY of those townships. That Denis was also of Dromdeegy suggests that Mary McCARTHY who married Cornelius MANNING, may be of the same family and therefore originally of the same townland; Evidence for the wider MANNING family in records is provided by: � Catherine MANNING � a sponsor/godmother at baptism of Mary d/o Denis & Mary DONOVAN in 1837 (so presumably was born before 1816 to be 21 on this date, but likely to be older � presumably an older sister of Cornelius or a MANNING wife); � Jeremiah MANNING � probably the farmer at nearby Derrynasafagh & Gurrane, a sponsor/godfather at baptism of Julia d/o Denis & Mary DONOVAN in 1841 (so presumably born before 1820 to be 21, but likely to be older). There is also a Patrick MANNING of the same townlands; � Richard MANNING - a farmer at Dromdeegy. He is the only other male directly recorded at Dromdeegy, so is likely to be either a son of Cornelius or a close relative that continued the farming in the townland after Cornelius� death. He would have to be at least 21 in 1845 as he was a sponsor at the baptism of Anne �Nancy� another d/o Denis & Mary DONOVAN. Richard appears to have married Mary FARRELL in Dunmanway in 1853. Four children are known before 1860, but it is not clear what became of the couple after this date as there were no MANNINGs in Dromdeegy by the 1901 census. They may have moved away in the 1860�s (possibly to South Wales, purely based on history of son Jeremiah). Their four children: o Cornelius MANNING (1853) - no history; o Margaret MANNING (1855) � no history, and based on same baptism date is assumed to be the twin of; o Jeremiah MANNING (1855-1916) who married Catherine O�KEEFE in 1872 Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales (he was only 17?). The couple settled in England (Middlesbrough (North Yorkshire) & South Shields (Durham)) from which there appear to be several descendant families. Many of their children appear to follow the same naming pattern as children already identified in West Cork, although the link is not firmly established and their descendant researchers have not yet linked back to the area. Interestingly, one of his children also married a FARRELL (South Shields), who may be related to the West Cork family of his mother, and who may have left Ireland around the same time as the MANNINGs; o Patrick MANNING (1859) � no history; Home Page & Contact Info The outline above is indicative only and not necessarily fully correct or complete. It should be used for guidance only. The CreativeGraces family tree can be found on Ancestry.